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Winged Human Tutorial by dymira128 Winged Human Tutorial by dymira128
NOTE: THIS TUTORIAL HAS BEEN UPDATED! It can be found on my second account --> :iconjerica128: here www.deviantart.com/art/Winged-…

First tutorial, so bear with me :hug:

Decided to make a "simple" tutorial to voice all my little ideas I came up with while I was designing my OC Icarus.

I know it's really wordy, but when you got a lot to say you kind of want to say it right? ;)

There are many other great tutorials out there, so don't base
everything on me (I can't take that kind of pressure :giggle: )

Enjoy and happy drawing :D
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Pubjunk Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I love drawing winged people (thank you FFVII) and I gotta say, I like your ideas. Some of them I've pondered, especially the point of keeping the legs lifted (that alone takes a great deal of strength  and energy when you're suspended by the shoulders/back) and a way to steer. Calf feathers make perfect sense! =D
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Marysmuse Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
VERY cool. I'm not an artist on this level, but I go for realism in my fics (well, as real as you can get when writing about mutated Turtles...), and I found this fascinating. Well done!
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dymira128 Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thank ya much :D

If you follow the link in the comments, it'll send you to an updated version of this, I've changed a few things as I learned more about stuff :D
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Marysmuse Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Awesomesauce... sorry I'm so sporadic with comments and replies. 
Single mom, raising teens, freelancing full time and in college... My online activities are kind of sparse these days. :-p Still love this tho. 
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OREO-cookeh Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
i have a question!!
are the rudders connected to the hamstring or the calves? o>o 
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dymira128 Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
They are connected directly into the outer layers of the calf muscles. There are smaller muscles that help control the feathers in a more precise manner but they grow from the calves :D
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MaximWolf Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2013  Student General Artist
Wow! It's like a 4% or 5% Human-avian Hybrid!  I only covered the anatomy of a 2% Human-Avian Hybrid>>fav.me/d6jpl6o fav.me/d6jnp35 fav.me/d696fl4
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themagickey13 Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Hm. This is really interesting. Great tutorial. I had a similar idea with feathers on the legs... But now I'm wondering if I subconsciously remembered it from when I read this tutorial years ago. Anyway, do you mind if other artists/writers use the concept of the tail feathers on the calf/ankles in for-profit work?
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dymira128 Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thanks so much :D

I am actually writing a set of novels myself that feature this specific trait. You are more than welcome to use it for fun/base for other original ideas but, as I am working on copyright, etc., I would like to keep the full idea of the "calf muscle controlled rudder feathers" my own. Hope you understand :hug:
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otterchild Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
This is the BEST tutorial I've seen on avian hominids, bar none. Mind if I borrow the ideas on the 'tail' for my comic and credit you?
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dymira128 Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thank you so much!

That is fine ;)
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crowguts Featured By Owner May 19, 2013

Oh my lord this is exactly what I've needed, thank you!
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dymira128 Featured By Owner May 20, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Glad you found it helpful :D
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catfeather Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2013
I just wanted to say that I'm impressed with the amount of thought and research you have put into this. :) Fantastic job and super interesting too.
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dymira128 Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thank you very much :D
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K1ku-Stock Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I really like this tutorial. Normally I only read the parts that I think I need to know, but this time read the whole thing. And I must say, I realized I've got a few things I need to think over, one of them being the rudder feathers. I've always thought that pretty much all winged humans are described simply like that - they have wings. I knew a lot was missing. And as a writer, I want to make things as realistic as possible.
I will still need to see how the rudder feathers would fit my characters, but I'll definitely give them a thought :D
Also, would you know which would fit better if I need speed and good maneuvering skills - broad and short or broad and long wings?
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dymira128 Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thanks so much for finding this helpful :D

If you are looking for speed, look at falcon wings. They are shorter and more streamline for higher maneuverability in the air. Larger, broad wings are more for gliding on thermals and such (like condors/vultures)

Hope that helps ;)
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K1ku-Stock Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks, I'll look into it (:
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dymira128 Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
No problem ;)
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BlueNephelim Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
What a fantastic tutorial! I love how much attention you gave the realistic avian anatomy; I think it's well worth the effort. I'm working on a similar tutorial ( I have angel characters to deal with), but I'm really glad to see someone else here on DA with an eye for detail and a bit of Biology. Again, great job. ^_^
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dymira128 Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thanks so much!! :D

Must give thanks to anatomy and animal science classes ;)
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rinchan448 Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2012
omfg!! thank you for pointing this out!!! it buggs the freeking heck out of my when people put wings on people that are too small!! its like WHY????!!!! you cant even fly with those!! and i had wondered how the tail/rudder would work. i mean a tail would be too high up! it makes sence to put them on the feet! u r now one of my all time favorites!
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dymira128 Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:giggle: Thanks so much for finding everything helpful :iconninjaglompplz:
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MsDaemon Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2012
:love:
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Vimeni Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2012
Extremely helpful, I've been working on a winged humanoid character and wanted to create an anatomy as close to realism as possible. Thanks for making this. : D
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dymira128 Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Very welcome :D

I am actually working on an updated/more advanced version of
this tutorial which I will post on my second account, :iconjerica128:, if you
are interested ;)
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1bettie Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
This is going to be a great help for me. Have been trying to draw myself as a bird lady from another planet. Could not get my wings right. So happy to find this.
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dymira128 Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
So glad this helped ;)

Thanks for taking a look :D
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1bettie Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
Oh helps a heap, believer me. So glad I found it. I am gonna keep a watach on you my friend.
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dymira128 Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Always glad to help :D

FYI though, most of my new wing stuff will only
be uploaded in my second account --> :iconjerica128: if
you would like to see more of that ;)
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1bettie Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
You bet I would. Would be so happy to see more and more.
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dymira128 Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:D ;)
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1bettie Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
Thanks
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dymira128 Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You betcha ;)
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WyzyWhig Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2011
i LOVE how you put stabalizing feathers on the legs instead of an entire tail like a birds'. I've only ever seen that on art of those first flying dinos so this was an intruiging (and rather lovely) change to art of winged people. Soooo i might just have to try it out..
:D
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dymira128 Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thank you so much for enjoying it, that really means a lot :D

I have a more updated/finalized anatomy design here > [link] if you are
interested in checking it out ;)
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WyzyWhig Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2011
ah, thats cool. he's definitely got a different-species sort of look to him, if thats what you were aiming for. do you think you'll color it? :D
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dymira128 Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yes, I wanted something that looked human-like but was clearly not human (besides the wings of course). It is just a base so it won't be colored. Future designs from this base will most likely be colored though :D
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WyzyWhig Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2011
ah sweet! Cuz it totally worked, please do more of this guy he's awesome!
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dymira128 Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Will do ;)
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Pubjunk Featured By Owner May 19, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
YAY! Wings! Now I can see where I messed up on Mistress Hawk's wings. Well when I do another carcoal of her I have a better reference for the feather structure :) Interesting concept of the "tail" feathers. It makes a lot more sence than the weight being fully supported by the wings at the shoulders/back (M.H's wing baseextends down past her shoulderblades to various back muscles to accomidate for the balance and weight)
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dymira128 Featured By Owner May 21, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thanks so much, I'm still working on final designs as well so there are some changes to this that I might make as time goes on, just don't know when :D
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arourallis Featured By Owner May 11, 2011
Interesting, and very in depth! The info on bone weights is very helpful!
My tutorial feels sort of inadequate now D:
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dymira128 Featured By Owner May 11, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thank you so much :D

All tuts are helpful, and actually yours was pretty helpful
as well. You really thought about movement and skeletal
structure. I especially like what you did with the "turning
the human arm into a wing" section :nod:
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arourallis Featured By Owner May 11, 2011
It would be pretty neat to incorperate everyone's ideas to make one super-tutorial, but that might be a little difficult D:
Now here, I can't quite see, are the rudder feathers built into his calves? Because that is a pretty neat idea! It really looks fesable.
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dymira128 Featured By Owner May 11, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
That would be neat to have a "super-tutorial"

Yes, they grow out of his calf muscles and skin. They are controlled individually like hair on your arms and legs but with more dexterous control. His legs help a lot to with their own up/down and rotational movement in flight, moving much like a normal birds tail.
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arourallis Featured By Owner May 12, 2011
Thats pretty neat! I just give my characters a tail. Simple but it looks like it could work.
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dymira128 Featured By Owner May 12, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Hey, if it solves the problem, why worry :D
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umbbe Featured By Owner May 4, 2011  Student Digital Artist
This is really good and inspirational for wings - too bad now I feel like Im jacking your idea if I give any winged humanoids leg-feathers. D: *sob*

First tutorial to ACTUALLY demonstrate how the muscles would increase with the addition of wings.
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dymira128 Featured By Owner May 4, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thanks so much for liking it :highfive:

And don't feel bad about adding the leg feathers, that's why
I put them there :D

I'd love to see it if you make one though, it'd be awesome ;);)
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